STRONG: (As The Girl You Wish You Hadn't Started a Conversation with at a Party) And I'm sorry. That's just so funny. I'm sorry. GROSS: (Laughter) I like that idea, the square dancing lobby. SNL season 48 premiered without some cast members many considered synonymous with the show in recent years. You're in a safer place, safer in the sense that you can go outside without having to go down an elevator and walk through a lobby and be - you know, be in the middle of Manhattan. GROSS: So let's hear a clip of you doing Jeanine Pirro. Cecily Strong attends the 73rd Primetime Emmy Awards at L.A. LIVE on September 19, 2021 in Los . Strong will also serve as a producer. She's been in the entertainment business since 2012, officially making her a ten-year veteran of the arts. Subsequent episodes released Fridays through Aug. 13. GROSS: So when does a decision have to be made? What did you do to try to capture her voice? Cecily Strong "Still Thinking" About Return to 'SNL' as Lorne Michaels Shares Hopes "She'll Come Back" The 'Saturday Night Live' veteran, who has a new memoir out on Aug. 10, says . This is FRESH AIR. It's streaming on Apple TV+. CHE: (As himself) Yeah. But she kept going, what? Cecily Strong is an American actress and comedian. PAUL: Yeah, that was part of the curriculum somehow. And it is - there is something weird about these old men, you know, sort of creating works of art in which there are these May-December romances. Visit our website terms of use and permissions pages at www.npr.org for further information. Cecily Strong's character loves musicals and is initially charmed. STRONG: Yeah, exactly. UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, singing) We want corn puddin'. Cecily Strong's character loves musicals and is initially charmed. Did you get to go backstage? GROSS: So your character in "Schmigadoon!" Talking about her love interest, Cecily Strong's Partner is Jack. JOST: (As himself) You don't have to shout, you know. I can hear you. Cecily Strong, who was a child actress and then an improviser in Chicago before finding fame on "Saturday Night Live," is set to make her New York stage debut this winter. You put the corn in the puddin' and the puddin' in the bowl. Here's all the safety measures - until I finally felt safe. If you're like me, you've never watched the show, and you didn't know her name until now. GROSS: I love the way mansplaining becomes, like, don't man-terrupt me. GROSS: Well, in some ways, maybe it was a good thing because you ended up - after going to Catholic school, you ended up in a performing arts high school, which is where you really fit in. STRONG: And it would, like, end in some crazy, like, exclamation. And, like, we're ending someone's, like, educational career right now in this moment, and you're playing a game with it. So a few weeks after talking to Cecily Strong about starring in the series, I spoke with Cinco Paul, who wrote all the songs. She's also . See if you can recognize what inspired this song. GROSS: Well, let's take a break here, and then we'll talk some more. Cecily Strong (actress) social media, news and video. And then it was just such a gift. I wonder if - is square dancing still taught in some schools? And then I remembered, like, hearing my straight male friends talk about interactions that they'd had, like, with some girl that seems normal, and then it's like, oh, she just said something crazy, and how do I get out of this conversation? But in eighth grade, he swallowed his bottle of Ritalin and had to get his stomach pumped and was in the psych ward, the children's psych ward, in Rush Hospital for a week. Otherwise, it's hard to get an impression on the show. She has over 500k followers on her Instagram. What was it like for you to go from this heightened sense of anxiety and depression to flying to - was it Vancouver? Just like the idea, you know, that it's like, you can have so much passion and feelings about these things that you don't really understand and haven't given much thought to and using them to sort of put down other people. We'll be right back. And I was like, I'd also kind of had a breakup kind of the night before. . You have to do people that everybody knows. . STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble, singing) And it may be a waste. Directed by Barry Sonnenfeld. And my mom made a little poster for me for my room growing up that said Cecily on Broadway. But they both soon realize they're trapped in Schmigadoon, where life is a musical. GROSS: Well, I hope your mom, like, recovers really soon. And that was the germ of the idea. Thank you so much for creating this series. Good. That was weird. They get lost in the woods, cross over a bridge and suddenly find themselves on what looks like a backlot movie set of a small town in the early 20th century, a town called Schmigadoon. I think that's why, for 25 years, nothing happened with it because it was - it needed that addition to really crack it. GROSS: There's times on Update when Colin Jost has been laughing, like, so hard because you're so funny. Yum. And we both enjoy malapropisms, I think, as much as each other, so it's a lot of that. Barry Sonnenfeld directs and executive produces. Make him watch it. And she used the playbill and a lot of those pictures. And he was showing me clips of her, like, doing man-on-the-street interviews. GROSS: There's times on "Update" when Colin Jost has been laughing, like, so hard because you're so funny. He also co-wrote the animated films "Despicable Me," "The Secret Life Of Pets," and "Horton Hears A Who.". It went to dress and not to air - and then kind of like, well, I don't know that we'll ever get to do that again. KEY: (As Josh Skinner) I didn't say that. Let's get back to my interview with Cecily Strong. You know, she's always got a very gravely serious affectation. So let's talk a little bit about your work on "Saturday Night Live." Other men have eyes that spark at every passing skirt. And I think, because my - we'd already gone through things with my brother. UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, singing) You put the corn in the puddin' and the puddin' in the bowl. This Mueller report completely exonerated the president, and therefore everybody on the Trump train - woo, woo (ph). We - Ken and I, you know, played music all the time when we were writing. KEY: (As Josh Skinner) That's fantastic. And so that's what "Corn Puddin'" is. STRONG: That's usually just Colin and I. And the first morning that you're there, you're having breakfast on the porch. Or I'll go to my garage. that's streaming on Apple TV+, and she has a new memoir. GROSS: Another little clue. during the pandemic. STRONG: (As The Girl You Wish You Hadn't Started a Conversation With at a Party) Hello, Michael Che. And she recommends the corn puddin'. We'll be right back after we take a short break. I appreciate it. And then I remembered, like, hearing my straight, male friends talk about interactions that they'd had, like, with some girl that seems normal, and then it's like, oh, she just said something crazy, and how do I get out of this conversation? and "The Lorax." So how much do you love musicals? We can't wait to make him watch it - with Cinco and Ken. We'll be right back after a short break. PAUL: Yeah, it's called "Make Him Watch It," and we make each other watch a movie we've never seen before. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. During a 2021 interview with Terry Gross on the National Public Radio program Fresh Air, she said that because her uncle is a Broadway producer, as a child she often got to go to . Photo: Charles Sykes/Bravo/NBCU Photo Bank/NBCUniversal via Getty Images. This one-woman show was a Broadway hit in 1985 and starred Lily Tomlin as 12 characters, something Cecily Strong seems very well-suited for. GROSS: One of the things in some musicals is - the love affairs in some musicals, I think, would be considered pretty age-inappropriate now, like, for example, "The Sound Of Music," where, like, she's a young nun who's just left the convent. Originally broadcast Aug. 9 and Aug. 23. GROSS: Why don't we hear "Corn Puddin'"? Cecily Strong first joined SNL as a featured player in 2012. GROSS: So the Cecily Strong character loves musicals. So here you are on "Weekend Update" as Judge Jeanine Pirro. And the trees are tall, and we call it Schmigadoon. He co-created and co-wrote the series with Ken Daurio. And, like, those are usually boring, too, and I never really understand the function that they serve. I mean, I think - it's certainly been a part of my life since I was little. In this scene, the couple keeps trying to escape Schmigadoon by crashing back over the bridge while bickering about their relationship. That's where everything's OK. We were in his office, and he was like, have you seen this lady? GROSS: What was the impact of that on you? PAUL: Yeah, I mean, that was the intention. GROSS: And so is that one of the things you wanted to play with - also the idea that, like, love can totally transform a person into - you know, a kind of stern, rigid person into a much more loving, lovely person? GROSS: That's Cecily Strong as Judge Jeanine Pirro. Why did you want him to hate musicals? Grown adults burst into song, one of which extolling the virtues of "corn pudding." Comedy stars like Cecily Strong and Keegan-Michael Key mingle with Broadway . GROSS: Reports are that you're not sure whether you're going back to "SNL" in the fall. Talk about the process of writing that. You put the corn in the puddin' and the puddin' in the bowl. Cecily Strong. And we wrote a sketch, actually, that didn't make it onto the show. I think I took my first drama class when I was 3. STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble, singing) And it may be a waste. Cecily Strong is a total theater geek.. It's brought me such pleasure at a time when I think we all need some pleasure. She's taken all these concepts and just turned them into something confusing and wrong that she's very passionate about. So, I mean, I assume it'll have to be soon. If you're just joining us, my guest is Cecily Strong, and she stars in the new series "Schmigadoon!," which is a loving satire of classic musicals from the '40s and '50s. Cecily Strong is good at women. You know, there were a lot of tears on-set - happy tears - just so much love and so much joy and such - we were all just so honored to be there, and it felt like we got to share this magical thing. Accuracy and availability may vary. STRONG: No. And it's just, oh, a song just about food. Trailer UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #2: (As character, singing) Every steak's bound to have some fat. In addition to starring, Cecily Strong serves as producer, and Ken Daurio serves as consulting producer and writer. GROSS: So your character in "Schmigadoon!" You put the bowl in your belly 'cause it's good for the soul. Like, what are you thinking? I am just trying to figure out how to get out of here and get back to reality. KEN DAURIO: (Singing) Some Cinco hasn't seen, too. STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble) Come on. And it is - it still feels a bit like controlled chaos, on "Update" especially, where it feels kind of fresh, and we're not exactly sure what's going to happen. GROSS: We're listening to my interview with Cinco Paul. The off . Comedian's romantic life explored. KEY: (As Josh Skinner) I didn't say that. If you're a nerd, just be a nerd. We all know that so many performers on Broadway historically have been gay, and it's only in recent years that they've been able to be out. I loved that movie so much, and the songs in that are so good. GROSS: To shoot and be in these, like, exuberant, like, joyful production scenes? During a recent . UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #5: (As character) Did somebody say corn puddin'? And then I think a real key moment was - I think I was 14 and was asked to play piano for my high school's musical. I - you know, it's hard. COLIN JOST: (As himself) Fox News personality Judge Jeanine Pirro returned to television tonight after being suspended two weeks for controversial comments about a Muslim congresswoman. So - but I definitely feel more anxious again. He's a queer one, that man o' mine. STRONG: Well, I actually will say the police had a program that I was really lucky to have. Congratulations on "Schmigadoon!" Extra-dirty vodka Martinis - they're so easy to drink! GROSS: Like, among the shows he did was terrific revivals of "Music Man," which is, of course, referenced (laughter) in "Schmigadoon!" I am eating ice cream, and the voiceover says, like, well, McDonald's now has ice - soft-serve for 37 cents or whatever it was. UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, chanting) Corn, Corn KEY: (As Josh Skinner) That's it. And they don't even know what corn pudding is. Strong said, admitting she immediately said yes to starring in the show, even though she thought the idea was "insane." Leigh Silverman is the director of the off-Broadway revival of The Search . Our interview was recorded in August. Cecily Strong. Cecily Strong is unsure about her future at Saturday Night Live after nine seasons on the iconic sketch comedy series. We're going to make him watch it for a podcast. And then in making fun of myself, we sort of just kept playing with that, and that led into the Girl You Wish You Hadn't Started a Conversation With at a Party. Please continue playing piano for us. And that's according to doctors, Michael Che. is initially really charmed by the idea that they're, like, living in a world of a musical. Strong said that because her uncle is a Broadway producer, as a child she often was able to attend Broadway shows and sometimes go back stage to meet their casts. It was my first year talking with Colin. PAUL: You know, he's amazing, and he's so tender, and he loves cooking. Was it your idea to do her, or did someone say, oh, you should do her? Saturday Night Live cast member Cecily Strong will provide an exclusive preview of her new memoir, "This Will All Be Over . You put the corn in the puddin' and the puddin' in the bowl. GROSS: So I want to ask you about another character that you've done, and that's the Girl You Wish You Hadn't Started a Conversation With at a Party. CECILY STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble) I don't understand. My Uncle Ed is a theater producer in New York, my dad and I went to his shows and saw "Guys and Dolls," "The Secret Garden." I was into the soundtracks. And I had that above my bed until we - I moved out - I think, till I went to college. and "The Lorax.". Cecily Strong. The first two episodes will premiere globally on Friday, July 16, 2021 exclusively on Apple TV+, followed by one new episode . STRONG: No because it wasn't like they were not emotional thoughts, you know? During this final week of the year, we're featuring a few of the many interviews from 2021 that we enjoyed. She was promoted to repertory player in season 39 in September 2013, along with her fellow castmates Aidy Bryant and Kate McKinnon, and left midway through season 48, following the December 17, 2022 . Did you get to go backstage? It was gorgeous. I think there's nothing more thrilling than hearing Terry Gross likes (laughter) your show and (laughter) enjoys it and has joy from it. Because, I mean, we shot last fall, so that wasn't even - I didn't even know we'd get to be vaccinated. And we were making the sets and making our props and hair and makeup, so it was really - we had a fun little make believe studio here. UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, singing) Just 'cause you feuded don't mean that you're concluded. GROSS: Oh, yeah. That's called a bubble standard. And suddenly, I used it just to make movies with all the neighborhood kids. STRONG: No. Cecily Strong and Keegan-Michael Key in "Schmigadoon!" premiering July 16, 2021 on Apple TV+. GROSS: My interview with Cecily Strong was recorded in August. Like, what word - what is, like, a word that's in the social lexicon of the moment that this girl would hear and say wrong? We're leaving. There's a song called "Something Wonderful" from "King And I" and another song from "Carousel" called "What's The Use Of Wond'rin?" My Uncle Ed is a theater producer in New York, my dad and . It was Gardner's first time, and her eyes widened as a pile of men in short shorts burst into a number . Cecily Strong On 'SNL,' 'Schmigadoon!' . UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #3: (As character, singing) You can't eat a fish without getting some bones. And I think that's probably why I enjoy rewatching it so much, is just taking myself back there. We're not going to spend another minute in this town. GROSS: Like, among the shows he did was terrific revivals of "Music Man," which is, of course, referenced (laughter) in "Schmigadoon!" Strong mentioned that her uncle is a Broadway producer in a 2021 interview with Terry Gross on the NPR program Fresh Air, thus she was able to see several Broadway productions as a child and even go backstage . GROSS: Well, I wish you well. And I'm now back to worrying about someone I love with COVID. I think my favorite character that you've been doing lately is Judge Jeanine Pirro, the Fox News host. It's such a contrast for me seeing the joy in "Schmigadoon!" She has no clue that he's gay, but she knows that, you know, he's different from the other men. STRONG: Although, I went back to - I actually went back to public school, which was a tough decision - you know, whether to stay at the Catholic school or go back - because the rules of the expulsion or whatever, they let me back my junior year. And I always wanted to be an actor since I was little. GROSS: Well, listen. The show was filmed in Vancouver, Canada. HARADA: (As Florence, singing) Sometimes it may seem like he is too good to be true, like there's a man that I can't see just aching to break through. - the loving satire of '40s and early 1950s musicals. UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, singing) I got us corn puddin'. Cecily Legler Strong (born February 8, 1984) is an American actress, comedian, producer, author, and singer. And it was "How To Succeed In Business Without Really Trying." And I should mention here that you now - you bought a home in the Hudson Valley, which is outside of New York City. But I certainly - I remember getting to go backstage after "Secret Garden." GROSS: That's pretty great. Our technical director and engineer is Audrey Bentham. Copyright 2021 NPR. (As characters, singing) Then she complains that he don't understand her. She's a cast member of "Saturday Night Live" and stars in the series "Schmigadoon!," a satire of classic musicals from the '40s and '50s that's streaming on Apple TV+. Six episodes at approximately 30 minutes each.) STRONG: (As The Girl You Wish You Hadn't Started a Conversation With at a Party) Here's a thought, Michael - maybe try being woke for a change, OK? I'll do anything. What - my parents put me in one, I should say. STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble, singing) And it may be a waste. Like, where did you grow up? STRONG: It's actually - I mean, it's funny timing. And I think my uncle probably didn't want me to be an actor as much as I did, just knowing that it was a tough life. It was like as soon as I started singing, I knew what to say. I'm also - love the show and get a lot of joy from it. And is it hard for you to keep a straight face when he's having trouble keeping a straight face? And then it ends in a very - you know, Ann does an amazing job with the song, and it ends in a really sweet spot - right? She's created some great characters for the show. GROSS: And the waitress delivering the corn pudding is the younger woman who's pursuing him. How are you doing? Let's get back to my interview with Cinco Paul. And I was enjoying watching it so much. I mean, he did a couple attempts here and there. In her second season, she co-anchored "Weekend Update" with Seth Meyers and then Colin Jost. Can you believe this, that we lost Hal, you know? USA. Then I kind of want to, like, go further. He's become a little more of a fan. And now she's appearing in New York in a limited-run production of Jane Wagner's "The Search For Signs Of Intelligent Life In The Universe." STRONG: Thank you. And we just thought it was so funny, and it was a fun way to play her. (As characters, singing) Then he says something mean to get her back. I need to get - I have to practice this fall. She was playing Fox News' Judge Jeanine Pirro, a frequent highlight of "Weekend Update," sloshing her booze onto co-anchor Colin Jost . And it wasn't easy to do this job this year. She doesn't know what that actually means, but she really wishes the best for him and loves him. So I've gotten to see a lot of his shows in New York. You know, and then it took a while to really understand - here's all of the things we're going to put in place. You know, I really wanted them - like, oh, that could genuinely have been a song sung in an undiscovered Rodgers and Hammerstein musical. And this is from the February 20, 2017, edition of "Saturday Night Live." Strong also has a new book that will be published tomorrow called "This Will All Be Over Soon." Her new memoir, "This Will All Be Over Soon," will be published tomorrow. But my man is gentle, as soft and sentimental as any lace adorned a valentine. JOST: You don't have to shout, you know. SNL cast member Cecily Strong's recent The View interview has got fans wondering about her dating life. This is FRESH AIR. That was so weird. UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, singing) Oh, she sure would like a taste. You put the bowl in your belly 'cause it's good for the soul. The women are wearing long, colorful prairie dresses with big petticoats. And I'd go, well, tonight I'm going to either - I'll just keep driving. Starring Keegan-Michael Key, Cecily Strong, Alan Cumming, Kristin Chenoweth, Ariana DeBose, Fred Armisen, Jaime Camil and Jane Krakowski. And they're sitting on the porch and about to have breakfast, and they're asked if they want some corn pudding. Keegan-Michael Key's character hates musicals and is desperate to leave. And it's - more than anything, it's like, watching my brother deal with his own depression, and it's like how I feel about mine. Let's get back to my interview with Cecily Strong. STRONG: Yes. And we just thought it was so funny, and it was a fun way to play her. She's nominated for an Emmy for her work on "Saturday Night Live." GROSS: I really love that. You've just really got her down (laughter). KEY: (As Josh Skinner) Would you leave us alone for just a minute? STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble) Oh, no, that's not OK - unless it's consensual. UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, singing) First, she said something bad to get his gander. 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