The best bit I was too smart for old bill never nicked no bans etc and the West Yorkshire old bill hated me. The Gooner, as the story goes, had a mouthful of pie or something at the time and he was trying to say here they are but it came out sounding like E.I.E instead. The highs and lows of relegation , promotion fa cup draw and if the team we played would turn out and stories like how youve said like with the 657, under Fives, ICF and Im sure you know but most wont admit it cass will not be remembered as a hooligan just a bloke who did good and wrote books we well I never rated him. [citation needed] Dainton Connell (aka Dainton "The Bear" Cornnell) was considered a folk hero by many Arsenal fans, but died in a car crash in 2007, with 3,000 mourners attending his funeral including several ex players. The best times were when we were a small tight knit firm like in these photos,going away to Boro & Liverpool 80 handed for a night game and doing what we wanted,blades bottles anything went and hardly anyone used to get nicked for the bad tear ups cos they all took place away from ob,scousers & mancs getting run everywhere and pinged on their own turf,and getting it again when they come down here trying to sneak back into Euston through the back streets of Somers town,always an ambush waiting for them and they got terrorised,no won some lost some about it,you got fucking mullered every time,great times. Im not surprised youve got the boys out there running things, says Jeff, 45, a former ICF member turned international accountant. It was no business school, but you learned a lot. ES. If you knew the score back then as you claim to youd know thwre was loads of little firms down tottenham back then. Everyone is encouraged to see their own healthcare professional to review what is best for them. I for one cant forget Trevor Brooking heading home for a 1-0 win over usin the 1980 FA Cup final but I remember comforting myself on the train home to Sussex with the fact that we were on our way to Brussels for the Cup Winners Cup Final against Valencia and surely we couldnt lose two finals in the space of five days? Never been near hertford so your little dig means fuck all to me. Read our, {{#verifyErrors}} {{message}} {{/verifyErrors}} {{^verifyErrors}} {{message}} {{/verifyErrors}}. It's possible to advertise on our website. GRV Media Ltd, 18 Mulberry Avenue, Widnes. It was directed by Lexi Alexander and stars Elijah Wood as protagonist Matt Buckner, and Charlie Hunnam as Pete Dunham. The Herds two most famous clashes were with Millwall fans at Highbury in 1988, in which 41 Millwall hooligans were arrested after fighting in the stands, and with Galatasaray fans in City Hall Square, Copenhagen in 2000. And even more coroagous? Precisely how active they are is difficult to gauge. And youre telling me i werent involved when it mattered. Parliament then passed the Football Disorder Act 2000, giving courts the power to issue banning orders and confiscate passports to keep troublemakers away from games. He still supported his secret tattoo back then, dont dare talk in public about it. It was a kind of drag, a disguise. I can tell from your comments your a tool. Matt the Millers is a casual dining restaurant that specializes in unique appetizers and tavern favorites, but often with a unique twist. And you were only team that turned up at k.Cross before or after. Thugs who are normally bitter rivals have joined forces to plan attacks on fans of Turkish side Galatasaray, who play Arsenal on Wednesday in Copenhagen, following the killing of Kevin Speight and Christopher Loftus in Istanbul last month. ( not guilty m lord. Some are as old as 65. [1][3][7], In 2009, a plaque dedicated to Connell near the Emirates Stadium was removed by Islington Council, despite opposition from fans.[8]. You get given the dates every August and you have to wait months, counting off the weekends. By bearberliana. Fucking hilarious this. "Through our investigations, we have identified a large number of those responsible and they are now facing the very serious consequences of their actions. For anyone reading this wanting to know the real coup about the 80s Arsenal firm-the best era of fv and fashion, we called ourselves Gooners in 1981 after the yids started calling us Goons, forget what all the idiots say about it,or the EIE bit-it dont mean anything, another one Ds inventions as out firms supposed leader, fuck off, we had 30+ much tastier than him but he liked to put himself about, call it a complex thing or whatever, Binnsy and co (the proper AFC firm left over from Hoys era) thought he was a cunt, quite rightly so.Every copper in England knew D as did every mob, what fun is that ?, he liked the attention too much and took the heat with his mob as we slipped under the radar. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. On January 13 at Blackfriars Crown Court, they were each given football banning orders ranging from five to eight years and prison sentences totalling nine-and-a-half years. Liverpool always had it with Arsenal more than any other London mob. The boys phoned each other and agreed on this car park in an industrial estate. [1], Connell died aged 46 in a car crash in Moscow in October 2007. Arsenal fans Charlie Barker, 22, of Redhill Street, King's Cross, Jack Bulley, 23 of Wanstead Park Road, Ilford, and 43-year-old Lee Bowering, of Percy Road, Romford, all pleaded guilty. They were sentenced on January 11 to six months, suspended for 18 months, and ordered to pay 500 costs. Re: Naughtiest Arsenal firm? Hooliganism was rife in British football in the 1970s and 1980s, a period in which many clubs had at least one firm. I once saw one lad taxed of his trainers just before he got through the turnstile. The top mob was the Clockend,thats who everyone knows and remembers,not some divs in the north bank from the home counties,is that who you mean by saying 99% of the top boys are missing? Tottenham were very active in the 80s, I know the names you mention very well but I dont remember your version of events! ", Strict policing ensured the Leeds v Millwall match went off without major disorder but there has been plenty of football-related trouble this year, Original reporting and incisive analysis, direct from the Guardian every morning, Millwall supporters are escorted by police officers before the Championship match against newly promoted Leeds United at Elland Road. he got spanked, he got sparked by some little Leeds chap on the pavement on Avenell rd once in about 1980 cos the Leeds fella didnt run, quite the opposite, he turned and run at Denton and I saw Ds face drop, before he got dropped-Leeds were laughing at him, calling him all sorts, I was embarrassed for the cunt. [5] He was employed as a bodyguard for the Pet Shop Boys' first tour in 1989. My Lancashire colleague knows who they are and I asked about Arsenal's risk supporters' intentions. Mind you, The Gooners weren't shy of a little cobble action either. A senior official at one of London's most prominent clubs, who has been involved in the game since the dawn of hooliganism and who did not wish to be named, told Observer Sport: "If anyone thinks the problem has gone away they are naive. 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Correct, late 70s 80s tottenham all over shitbury time and time again ! Fighting spilled on to the road and Paul Dineen, a 41-year-old Arsenal fan was stabbed. And they were all doing deals, whether that be scallies nicking trainers from German stores and selling them back in Liverpool, firms sorting their own transport or, in the late 1980s, crews who ran raves and did a bit of dealing. You can buy a pill or a line any time you want, but imagine if you could only take them twice a season. Ipswich away climbed up the roof and p.ssed on them home fans . I picked him up and told him he was showing us up,the cunt nearly cried. By CarlosMerch. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. Nots Forest away in the trent they went , Your email address will not be published. So the tales in my book are written by me not some poncey author with no idea about football. Peter talks about violence the way Alcoholics Anonymous members talk about drinking as something beautiful and addictive and almost born within him. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. You can opt-out at any time by signing in to your account to manage your preferences. At the same time, he was influential in ensuring that the BNP then trying to infiltrate football firms failed to gain any foothold at Arsenal.[3][4]. Stephen C. Millers Mississippi-set drama 'Arsenal' stars Adrian Grenier and Johnathon Schaech as brothers targeted by Nicolas Cages diabolical crime boss. Was invited to do Chelsea podcast. Being Tottenham, I came unstuck several times against the herd back in the 1980s, I still recognise some of the faces in the pictures, they were game as you like back in the day, even bumped into several of them and renewed acquaintances again in a cup semi final at Old Trafford in 2001 !!! It was like Beirut. Also very doubtful you bashed west ham and chelsea as they were prob worse than spurs. We don't want that disease returning. by Propa_Nutcase Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:21 pm, by Royal Gooner Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:28 pm, by Propa_Nutcase Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:50 pm, by Propa_Nutcase Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:56 pm, by DiamondGooner Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:01 pm. As for the comment that the Gooners gave West Ham, Chelsea and Tottenham a slap, hilarious. "Those involved in the worst of the disorder are now facing lengthy custodial sentences and this should serve as a warning to other fans that this kind of behaviour will not be tolerated.". (Trailer) BloodlineVision Follow Who is Ian Davies, attempts to explore his rise from middle class kid from Broadstairs to Arsenal (the Herd and the Gooners) hooligan Arsenal Herd and Gooners then and now! The Ministry of Defence said it would investigate plans by any soldiers to go to Copenhagen. They have been involved in several outbreaks this season, including fighting at both north London derbies against arch-rivals Tottenham Hotspur. Connell had left school at 16 to take up scaffolding and was briefly famous when he gave an interview to Janet Street-Porter claiming to be the first black skinhead on the Arsenal terraces. I have some who are in their sixties and might earn 100,000 a week in the City. The author was adding things he had heard over the years Im Leeds funnily the only real female football hooligan from 1980 We will always remember you as the gooners and yes West Ham Millwall chelsea handy but arsenal would normally turn up at k Cross before the game and after. There has been a worrying series of violent, football-related incidents in the past three months. Gooners pay tribute to fan who became folk hero, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dainton_Connell&oldid=1101792330, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 1 August 2022, at 21:04. Away from the ground it is a different story. Banno, for instance, a well-known stage actor in his early fifties, has written two well-received plays and produced documentaries for Channel 4. Cocaine is the choice of a modern-day hooligan. Enter your password to log in. Wed arranged to meet. "The normal paying public wouldn't understand it," says Wally, a 46-year-old who was once a prominent force in Birmingham City's firm the Zulus. PC Pete Dearden, Arsenal's football intelligence officer, says: "At a high-profile game at Arsenal where there are 60,000 people coming, we are looking at 150 to 200 who are part of the risk supporters group. He was leader of one of the Arsenal's hooligan firms during the 1980s. Flight Options, which handles travel to football games and had a significant contract with FIFA for World Cup flights to South Africa, was founded by a former member of The Herd. As for Gooners turning up at WHL i can honestly say i never saw a firm turn up, ever, between 76 and late 80s. I'm honestly trying to decide if Proper Fruitloop is the worst poster on this site, or if S&W and Maradonaitis positions are safe. The Herd, the other Arsenal firm, was mainly active between the late 1970s and early 1990s, although the Herd still exist today, they now prefer to stay undercover. There are two Arsenal hooligan firms, The Gooners (a mutation of the club's nickname, The Gunners) and The Herd. When they played Manchester United at Highbury last August, 20 Arsenal hooligans followed one United fan and beat him senseless at a Tube station. I have respect for your proper old school and used to drink with some of them in the White hart opposite the old Bassetts sweet factory on white hart lane, good banter and never any grief,we avoided each other when it kicked off at a game or station and had a giggle about it after. Boys Own magazine, launched in 1988, was also a product of the football/rave fusion, led by the DJ and Chelsea casual Terry Farley. "The best way for me to curtail the activities of my risk group [in Islington, Arsenal's borough] is to cut off their supply of cocaine with good intelligence, arresting the person supplying them. I had to fight every step of the way down the Holloway Road to Highbury Corner. Was I involved? You can opt-out at any time by signing in to your account to manage your preferences. Had to share with my ICF and Chelsea mates, they pissed themselves aswell. After the trouble of the late 1970s got the laws attention, anyone involved in an 1980s crew would have to have the best organisational skills you can imagine. Last Wednesday, 19-year-old Callum Ellis was given a maximum five-year banning order by Leeds magistrates for being the leader of a group of Bradford City hooligans who call themselves the Young Bradford Ointment. They were sentenced on January 11 to six months, suspended for 18 months, and ordered to pay 500 costs. "Look at the World Cup in South Africa; there was no one arrested for football-related trouble.". The authorities aim to keep it that way, although they remain vigilant and will be concerned by the outbreaks of violence this summer. City boy and Millwall fan Gary, who has been in rehab for five years coming off the cocaine and the booze agrees, and says that giving up fighting is the hardest thing of all. One Arsenal hooligan with a history of organising trouble is a close ally of a prominent Chelsea 'headhunter' who has a horrendous record of violence. WebHe was leader of one of the Arsenal's hooligan firms during the 1980s. And we must remember that an Arsenal fan was stabbed to death near Arsenal tube after a game against West Ham at Highbury in the Eighties. On the eve of the new football season this moved the BTP to announce a crackdown on troublemakers and a determination to issue more banning orders. Gotta go with it. (Brunch 10 AM - 3PM) View Menus View Gallery. The first hurdle after the tube was the Queens, a drinking den inhabited by West Hams nastiest nutters and it was a case of eyes down, march on and try at least to avoid a beating before you got near the ground and queued to get in.That done (and there was never any guarantee that the East End loons wouldnt sup up and pick out visiting supporters before returning to their drinks) the next step was to avoid being battered as you lined up to get in the South Bank. The only bod I can think of who brought a camera to some home games was big S.G the boxer,and I never saw a single photo he took,and he never travelled away apart from Ipswich one year about 82 when we had a free reign over the farmer divs up there,no opposition at all,mugs. To have been made. Good to here still rocking. Police say up to 200 troublemakers who follow Leeds, Chelsea, Glasgow Rangers, Cardiff City and Swansea City are travelling to Denmark to help Arsenal hooligans assault Turkish fans. Today, cocaine is massively in abundance. Home Office figures for the 2008-09 season show an average of only 1.18 arrests per match, an overall total of 3,752 from the 38 million people who attended games in England and Wales that year. Arsenal last season, for instance. Everythig i put in yt is truth as i saw it If you dont like it too bad. Unlike you who seems to b telling us that you done everyone. If anyone is still in contact with S.G ask him to put all the photos up on the Herd site,would be good to see the ones he took of the riot down Seven sisters just before the Brixton & Toxteth riots broke out!,we were the leading fucking trendsetters and fashion icons of our day ; ). Football firms were (and still can be) sprawling groups comprising hardcore hoolies as well as plenty of softer-core members more interested in the clothes and the music the casuals. Thats something you never lose, you just apply it to other walks of life., It seems strange, I venture, to phone someone, chat to them, arrange to meet them and then try to beat the living daylights out of them then, a few weeks later, do it all again. The kids were scared with them being eight and five because they have never experienced anything like that before.. Dynamo Dresden in clashes with police 17.05.2021, Manchester United fans protest 02.05.2021. Who can honestly then witness the Yids T-shirts after? A family friendly restaurant, Dainton was one of the top boys but not the sole leader-when he was around he would lead with a few of others in these photos-Big bad Paul,SS Cookie and **** from Mile end-they were all very handy and they are all in these photos-I wont point them out but those who know,know. Police reported only seven arrests, which was seen as a triumph. A teenager told the Standard: My nan, auntie and her kids were in the back of the Wetherspoon when fans ran in flipping tables around. Every week Dearden gathers intelligence from his counterparts at other clubs, "spotters" at train and motorway service stations, the transport police, traffic wardens, the public and paid informants on the inside of the Herd so he can grade the risk of potential violence and call in police resources. WebThere are two Arsenal hooligan firms, The Gooners (a mutation of the club's nickname, The Gunners) and The Herd. Id rather have my memories than a huge bank balance. Scroll down to select your location and preferred date/time. Mid to late 70s you had some numbers up for it around Highbury but you cant say you went to the lane and won. There is a younger firm coming through," he says. Casuals wore high-end labels and expensive sportswear as a deliberately subversive challenge, much like Mods wearing Savile Row suits in the 1960s. He says: "There can be inappropriate use of the powers. It's not just whether you can get away with it on the day. West Ham fans Christopher Love, 28, of Benfleet, Essex, and Paul Ogden, 36, of Church Island, Staines, had previously admitted violent disorder . "The hooligan problem and football violence that just won't go away", "Thousands attend funeral of legendary Arsenal fan", "Surprise attack by Arsenal fans seeking revenge sparked battle", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arsenal_firm&oldid=1142136701, Pages using infobox criminal organization with ethnicity or ethnic makeup parameters, Articles with unsourced statements from April 2011, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, White, White Irish, Greek Cypriots, Asian and Black British, This page was last edited on 28 February 2023, at 18:31. 2001-2023 The Pain Reliever Corporation. We did!Perhaps the appy Hammers recognise that we too hate Chelsea and Tottenham and there is no need for us to swap nasty comments or right-hooks. Photograph: Craig Brough/Action Images. From $19.58. WebThe Red Army is a hooligan firm who follow English football club Manchester United.Although today the term Red Army is used mostly to refer to fans of the club in general, the hooligan firm has been one of the largest firms in British football. [1] The Herd are a hooligan gang. The controversial US oil plan explained, Detectives hunting for Constance Martens baby find remains of infant, Harry and Meghan lose Frogmore Cottage after memoir controversy, Watch: Moment teenager smashes into lorry during 100mph police chase, London Bridge overcrowding: Give TfL control of Southeastern trains. Take them twice a season with it on the day your browser only with your consent plans by soldiers. Was rife in British football in the past three months `` Look at the Cup... 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