(Its a Grand Old Flag by Don & John Strachan). Ray Rouget won 6 Best & Fairest awards during the 30s being 1934, 35,36,37,38 and 39. It was a vintage display of football that will get better and better over the coming weeks and years. Discover; For Organisations; About Us; Smith on the other hand, making his senior debut as a 16-year-old, impressed on the field averaging more than 28 disposals through the first half of the season to be picked up by the Eastern Ranges to join their talent academy program. In 1924 at the last match of the year against Healesville, the players arrived late with only 13 men and the match commenced at 3.45pm and finished in darkness. Club Puebla. Wandin went many years without claiming a single senior grade premiership but can now unequivocallybe regarded as one of the Yarra Ranges Football Netball League's pre-eminent clubs. In 1972, after many years in the Eastern Districts Football League, Wandin decide to transfer to the newly formed second division of the Yarra Valley Mountain Districts Football League, competing against Seville, Marysville, Silvan south Belgrave and Powelltown. Download Team App now and search for Wandin Football Netball Club to enjoy our team app on the go. The WFNC Coaches for 2017 have been confirmed. Club policy requires all players in our lower age groups wear helmets, and all players are required to wear mouth guards regardless of age level. Other players of note during the 30s were: Holden, Cowley, Boyes, Riseborough, Blanksby, Gaudion Brothers and Mitchell. or Goal Scorers G Sinclair 43, J Cullymore 37. 26 February 2023 European Football. Goal Kickers - David Clark 5, Roscoe Heinrich 3, John Strachan 3, Geoff Watts 2, Alan Hasan 2, Paul French 2, Neil Mitchell 2, David Hay 1 and Vin Tesorerio 1. In 2009 a number of local families were affected by the devastating bush-fires, but the A & B grade Netball teams made the Grand Finals to provide some celebration. The coaching movements continued with Mick Connell taking over in 1996 and the team finishing 4th. The reserves boys started well with some good linking play from the first bounce, young Pat Hodgett was marking everything up forward and at the first change we had got out to a 25 point lead Wandin 5 1 = 31 to Monbulk 1 0 = 6, the second quarter was a real arm wrestle, our midfielder Josh Smith & Ben Wheat were in & under in every contest, our young ruckmen in Lachlan Jones & Tom Leech Hines were giving us first use as we extended our lead to 29 points at half time, Wandin 8 2 = 50 to Monbulk 3 3 = 21, coach Geoff Bartling challenged the boys to shut them out of the game in the third term and that the boys did holding Monbulk scoreless as we added another 3 goals to extend the lead to 49 points at the last change Wandin 11 4 = 70 to Monbulk 3 3 = 21, we had control and ran away with the game in the last quarter kicking another 4 goals to 1 to run out very convincing winners by 72 points Wandin 15 9 = 99 to Monbulk 4 3 = 27, our best players were Josh Smith in the midfield, Tom Leech Hines either in defence or the ruck was good all day, Ben Wheat playing his first game for the year was solid all day as was Pat Hodgett who marked the footy all day like it was a dry day, Mitchell Shanks & Matt Cerquarelli worked hard to support as well, our goal kickers were Pat Hodgett with 5, Jimmy Messis kicked 4 in his first game this year, and 1 goal each to Aaron Rowe, Mitchell Shanks, Luke McPhee, Matt Cerquarelli, Matt McKenzie & Josh Smith. Content responsibility of website administrator. Players of note in the 70s: Sam Dicello, Max & Brian Rouget, Kevin & Alan Hasan, Barry, Steven & Paul Hunter, Don Kitto Snr, Ray Lyons, Paul French, Wayne Johnston, Neil Mitchell, Luke Mathyssen, Ross Heinrich, Rob Clark, Geoff & Ian (Buddy) Watts, John Strachan and Bruce Bailey. Wandin struggled on-field through the 20s with its best result finishing 4th in 1922. The number of games is interchangeable eg. 1961 saw Jack Bailey kick 11 goals against Mt Evelyn with Wandin finishing middle ladder in Division 2 of the newly formed Eastern Districts Football League. Final. We are dedicated to ensuring every child gets an opportunity to. We encourage a non competitive attitude in the younger age groups, with an emphasis on enjoyment and basic skill development. Sunday, 10 April 2022. Clubs played in a two division structure in both the seniors and reserves, with the club winning the senior flag in division two promoted and the bottom division one senior club relegated each season. However, according to the "Lilydale Express" the club went into recess in 1910. The Wandin Hall was built in 1952 next door to the football ground; this allowed Saturday night dances to be held in Wandin rather than travelling to Seville. Congratulations to Melissa Lang who will be playing her 200th game for Wandin FNC tomorrow against Doveton at the kennel Welcome to Wandin Football Netball Club! The club has also been uplifted in recent times by the recruitment of junior footballer Flynn Kroeger to Geelong through the NAB AFL Draft, who also featured in the seniors Round One match against Doveton. Outer East FN - Senior Football, Outer East Football Netball - Senior Football, 2022. Wandin Football Netball Club endured a tough year in 2021, as they again struggled for form and consistency in good results. Goal Scorers B Smith 14, H McInerney 14, P Harris 12. Alex P. Allain-Franklin Amelia Bayou Vista Berwick Centerville Patterson West End-Baldwin St. Mary Parish Library Newsletter stmarylibrary.org December 2016 C H R I S T M A S O N T H E B A Y O U The Franklin Library invites you to a family filled Christmas Amelia Bayou Vista Berwick Centerville Patterson West End 0 Items. Best Players R Ross, M Polkinghorne, J Ladner, D Ladner, B Foley, M ODonohue. 0400000000 wandinfnc@outereastfn.com.au. See more of Wandin Football and Netball Club on Facebook. Wandin and Seville amalgamated in 1925 with other clubs competing being Montrose, Yarra Glen, Lilydale, Healesville, Croydon, Woori Yallock and Silvan. See picture below. Players of note in the 50s were: Alan McColl, Don Strachan, Ron Henderson, Jack Bailey, John Davie, Max Reid, Ron Fletcher, Laurie Gaudion, Ray Rouget and Bill Rouget. Home. AFL. We understand how precious every child is, and we have highly dedicated first aid trainers and safety officers to give your child the best care at all times. For all the latest Bulldog news, follow us on facebook, The WFNC wishes to acknowledge the passing of Life Member Don Strachan, Congratulations to the 2017 WFNC B&F Winners, WFNC Reserves and Under 18's win Premiership. Tyrendarra Football Netball Club Cnr Ettrick Road and Princes Highway, Tyrendarra . AustralianFootball.com Celebrating the history of the great Australian game . Under 9/11s - Wednesday nights at Wandin East starting at 5.00pm to 6.00pm - training will start Wednesday 16th February Under 13s - Tuesday nights at Wandin East starting at 5.00pm to 6.00pm - training will start Tuesday 8th February.a second night of WANDIN JUNIOR FOOTBALL CLUB 2021 ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING MONDAY 13 SEPTEMBER 2021 7pm Via Teams Click here to join the meeting (refer instructions on how to join) Nominations for the 2022 Committee are open and we encourage anyone interested to contact the secretary Click Here to Download PDF Version RE-USABLE BANNER The club has purchased a re-usable banner to help our players celebrate their milestone games. The Yarra Valley Football League recommenced in 1945 with Healesville, Warburton, Powelltown, Lilydale, Woori Yallock, Yarra Junction, Millgrove and Wandin. 1,386 were here. Best Players C Bogle, L Fletcher, T Harris. 100 Best afield for Wandin was Alan Hasan, Luke Matthyssen, Kevin Hasan, Robert Clark, David Clark, Paul French and John Strachan. Subscribe to our newsletter to receive our latest news, offers & updates We are dedicated to ensuring every child gets an opportunity to experience the thrill of playing AFL football with fun and friendship the cornerstones of our club. Matchday 1. Grand Final - Pre-Game Show 42:45. Wandin and Mount Evelyn will reignite their local rivalry on Sunday 10-4-22 at Wandin. Fee. From 1956 to 1958 Wandin, Seville and Woori Yallock joined together to form Valley United wearing the red, white and blue colours. Round 2 Anzac Round will see local rivals Pakenham and Officer go head-to-head. $21.00. Club Info. Content responsibility of website administrator. Wandin Football Netball Club (AFL OESFL) 172 Victoria Road, Yering, VIC 3770, Australia. Standard Hourly Fee. Wandin Football Netball Club - GameDay, fixtures, results, ladders, statistics, news and events for the Wandin Football Netball Club, on GameDay, the Home of Grassroots Sport Finals Week 3 - The Day's Play - Sydney v Collingwood 12:34. All players, coaches, officials, parents, supporters and committee members have a responsibility at all times when representing the Wandin Football/ Netball Club to conduct themselves in an appropriate manner consistent with these values and/or codes of conduct as outlined in our policy document. AustralianFootball.com Celebrating the history of the great Australian game, Official nameWandin Netball Football Club, Associated clubsSeville (Original); Valley United, Affiliation (Current)Outer East Football Netball League (OEFNL) 20192023, Affiliations (Historical)Yarra Valley Football League (YVFL) 19151953; Croydon-Ferntree Gully Football League (CFGFL) 19591961; Eastern Football Netball League (EFNL) 19621971; Yarra Ranges Football Netball League (YRFNL) 19722018, Senior PremiershipsYarra Valley Mountain District Football League/Yarra Ranges Football Netball League - 1992, 2001-2, 2015, 2018 (5 total); Division Two - 1978-9 (2 total). The club was founded in 1885. Best Players C Sparkes, T Halton, O Weinberg, G Cunningham. Wandin Football/ Netball Club Home of the mighty Bulldogs. Evelyn school was hold in the Mechanics Hall on Tuesday evening. A GRADE V OLINDA . Club policy requires all players in our lower age groups wear helmets, and all players are required to wear mouth guards regardless of age level. We went from being individual teams to training as a full squad, said Netball Coordinator Penelope Harris. New coach Mark Hazeldene led from the front winning the League Best & Fairest in 1988 with the reserves winning the flag. Matt Peterson takes over as coach in 2004 with the team finishing near the bottom of the ladder. Minute Secretary - Penelope Harris. Please don't be rude, abusive, swear or vilify others. 21/05/2021 - Liga BBVA MX. In the netball ranks, all sides put in a fair effort to win 19 games among all four teams, while B Grade was the standout with seven wins to finish in third on the ladder. Wandin 4.1-25 7.6-48 9.10-64 15.14-104, Monbulk 1.4-10 4.5-29 7.10-52 7.13-55. The D Grade girls started well in really wet conditions that made it hard to control the ball in the first quarter to lead by 5 at time Wandin7 to Monbulk 2, it continued to rain and this was making it slippery and hard to control the ball in the 2nd term but our girls copped best to extend our lead to 17 goals Wandin 19 to Monbulk 2, Paige Batty & Brooke Smith were in everything for the second week in a row as we held Monbulk to 1 goal for the term and at time we had the game won leading by 23 goals Wandin 26 to Monbulk 5, we powered away in the last quarter to score 14 goals to 1 and we ran out very convincing winners by 36 goals Wandin 40 to Monbulk 4, our best players were Paige Batty, Brooke Smith and Lauren Ball & our goal scorers were Brooke Smith & Holly Mcinerney with 14 each & Penelope Harris 12. Wandin fielded a Reserves team in 1964 for the first time, with the senior team finishing 8th on the ladder. Monbulk 2 4 5 6. Although Emerald jumped out to a quick early lead Wandin settled and came back strong to run out convincing winners. Colin Brown won the 1st Division Senior Best & Fairest. 143 defeated Emerald 15.10. Finals Week Three - Dean Cox pre-game 06:38. Vice President - Rob Huggins. Content responsibility of website administrator. Marcus Smith won the 1st Division Reserves Best & Fairest. Fixtures & Ladders; Register; Wandin Snrs. Heading into season 2022, Wandin will have the clear aim of moving up the ladder and into finals contention for all teams across the club. Something like: asndino, snadino, sadnino, sanidno, sandnio, sandion, andino, sndino, sadino, sanino . Lionel Messi and Kylian Mbappe helped PSG move eight points clear at the top of Ligue 1. Since 2013, the under-18s has been played as a single division. Here are all the details from Saturday's matches. Monbulk will have the bye in senior football and take on Beaconsfield Netball Club for the first time at Beaconsfield on 9-4-22. 1978 was a watershed year for the club winning its first senior premiership, as well as winning the reserves premiership, by defeating Emerald in both games. 104 15.14. There was an element of understanding from the coaches on what they could do physically but also understanding the players in a wellbeing perspective and it gave the girls a sense of being really inclusive.. We are inviting U18 and senior female players to make a new home with the Roos at he Pouch! 1994 saw Chris Baxter take over the senior coaching job, however in a shock move Chris resigned and former premiership player Billy King stepping in for the last 6 games. With several of its players participating in the VNL program early in the year, the Bulldogs were impacted as these players were not able to contribute full time, but the influx of new players brought the squad closer together. Adelaide . The following is the Team ofthe Century as picked in position -, Backline - Andy Goodwin , Peter Brown Jnr , Max Rouget, Half Backline - Don Strachan , Paul Hunter , Andy Coppens, Centres - Alan Hasan , Ray Rouget , Barry Pendleton, Half Forward - Joe Poulter , Rob Smith , Wayne Johnston, Forwards - Kevin Hasan , Donald Kitto Jnr , Nick Blackmore, Interchange - Matt Peterson , Neil Mitchell , Ian Watts, Don Kitto Snr. The game started with a deluge of rain to cause puddles of water all over the ground making the game a bit scrappy early, our boys adjusted Harrison Byrne and Alex Marsh were looking dangerous early and we held the Monbulk Seville boys scoreless in the first quarter as we added 4 goals to lead by 27 points, Wandin 4 3 = 27 to Monbulk 0 0 = 0, the rain stopped in the second term and the boys started to take full control, Lachlan Corbett was having his best game of the year displaying some great run out of defence & Daniel Hirst back from holiday was looking very good in the way he covered the ground as we held the opposition scoreless for the second consecutive quarter and at half time we lead by 60 points, Wandin 9 6 = 60 to Monbulk Seville 0 0 = 0, the third quarter the rain came again, and Tom Merlino & Alistair Gray were supporting Harrison Byrne well in the midfield battle as the boys held Monbulk Seville scoreless for the 3, For the first time this year our A grade girls were nearly at full strength with the only player missing being Ella Bayliss who still has a couple of weeks her ANL requirements before she can play the girls made sure Monbulk new they were ready to play as they came out hard in the wet & cold and by time we led by 15 Wandin 22 to Monbulk 7, Gabby & Jackie were shooting the lights out at a shooting percentage all goalers would be proud of, Monbulk had no answers in the 2, Our B Grade girls started well and looked in no danger from the early part of the game and by time we had got out to a 12 goal lead, Wandin 17 to Monbulk 5, they continued to pressure the girls at both ends of the court with Lauren Fletcher shooting well in the goal in the wet and slippery conditions & Corrine Bogle defending as well as ever, and by half time the girls had the game in control and we were out to a 27 goal lead with Wandin 38 to Monbulk 11, the 3, The C Grade girls started well and held Monbulk to 2 goals for the quarter with some great work by Tash & Charlotte in the defence end of the court and at the first change we had a 7 goal lead Wandin 9 to Monbulk, Olivia Weinberg was scoring at a high percentage in the wet conditions as we started to open the game up in the 2, The D Grade girls started well in really wet conditions that made it hard to control the ball in the first quarter to lead by 5 at time Wandin7 to Monbulk 2, it continued to rain and this was making it slippery and hard to control the ball in the 2, Click here to register or update your details. The next WFNC Function is June 3rd at Bricey's Tavern in Mooroolbark. Comment Guidelines: The SportsTG Network is made up of players, families and passionate sports followers like you who have a strong opinion about sport. 15 WHITE V ROC. Apart from some pretty serious sport sanctions, we also can ban you and report you if things get out of hand. See all the details from Round 2 Vs Monbulk, Find all the results from Round 1 Vs Mt Evelyn, Make sure you support the Bulldogs with a 2017 WFNC Membership. Ph: 0402 345 130 1966 Wandin again suffer the heartbreak of being beaten in the Grand Final by one point, this time by Olinda, who kicked 6.19 to our 8.6. View Wandin U19s fixture and ladder for the Outer East Football Netball - Senior Football 2023 season Loading browse data. Matchday 2. 143 defeated Emerald 15.10. Andy Goodwin won his first of many Best and Fairest award. See all the results from the Weekends finals, Here are the Venues for week 3 of the finals, See all the results from week 2 of the finals, See all the results from week 1 of the finals, Here are the details for this weekends finals matches, See all the results from Saturday's matches, This Saturday is Past Players & Supporters Day August 26, See all the results from Saturday's games. Located in the beautiful Yarra Valley, Wandin Junior Football Club is a vibrant junior AFL sporting club dedicated to nurturing the sporting and social potential of every child that passes through our club. Wandin Snrs. Please don't be rude, abusive, swear or vilify others. Congratulations to all the WFNC Players selected to represent AFL Yarra Ranges. Goal Scorers O Weinberg 34, T Goodman 10, G Cunningham 5. Wandin Football Netball Club is a Football - Australian Rules team/club based in Wandin, Victoria, Australia. Football and Netball results from round 3 last weekend against Upwey. Monbulk 5 11 20 26. Wandin Junior Football Club. See all the results from Round 4 Vs Warburton Millgrove, WFNC acknowledges the passing of Life Member Bill Rouget, See all the results from Round 3 Vs Gembrook Cockatoo. The recreation Reserve in Clegg Road is selected and cleared in 1913. Here are the results from the WFNC Superdraw held on Saturday night. GameDay. 2006 saw Wandin introduce Netball after many, many years, with 2 teams. We had our first real wet day at home this year and the weather started to take toll on the ground by the end of the day, but overall we had another great day at the office fielding 7 teams against Monbulk winning them all, Id like to share another stat from the weekend that it was the fifth week in a row that all teams had won their respective matches and in the time the vets have won 2 games as well taking the club to around 40 consecutive wins by the club since the start of round 4 which I would have to think is a record of some sort, lets hope the boys and girls can keep it going against our fierce rival in Woori Yallock this Saturday. That's great - we want you to have your say and share your thoughts with the world. 1978 saw Wandin win it's first Senior premiership defeating Emerald. Aggregate score 1-3. Fixture; Ladder; 1 - Premier Data - Premier Division Seniors View Grade. Donald also kicked 25 goals against Emerald in 1999, but to no avail as they lost another Grand Final. Grand Final - Match Discussion 04:18. 1948 saw Wandin complete one of the recruiting coups of the year in securing Bill Twomey Senior (of Collingwood fame) to coach the Club. Despite proving to be competitive at times, the senior football side finished eighth on the ladder with one win while the reserves won four games to finish in fifth. In 1985 Steve Williams was appointed coach with instant success, winning the premiership along with the reserves. With our younger players, they will soon become the next generation which means we need to develop them in a really secure way to avoid burn out and stay at the club because we are really keen have success return for us again., Copyright 2018 To all WFNC Players, members and supporters have a great festive season, Congratulations to the WFNC boys who did us proud in Sydney, There are NO GAMES this week due to the Vic Country Vs Vic Metro. To access all the features of this site you need to Log In or Sign Up. We are at home to Mt Evelyn this Saturday, The Weekly Times recently ran this article, Read all the details about the WFNC latest recruit, Improvements continue at the Kennel with the instalattion of the new electronic scoreboard, WFNC has joined AFL Victoria's Quality Club Program. The Sevenoaks team will be: Goal, D. Mauwaring: backs, W. Smith and A. C. Stepney (capt), half-backs; T. Zealey, L. Standing, and H. Maruhant ; forwards, T. H. Bowes, J. Grayley, F. W. Collet, E.. $28.00. 1973 saw Wandin win its first ever premiership with the under 17 team. P: PO Box 241 Wandin North 3139, 2019 Wandin Junior Football Club | Website Designed by, Season 2022 Training times and starting dates, Wandin Junior Football Club July Newsletter. Players of note during the 40s included: Alan McColl, Perc and Laurie Gaudion, Ron Henderson, Ray Rouget, Arthur Cowley, Duck Riseborough, Harold Blanksby, Bill Rouget, Dave Johnston, George Jacobs and Doug Hunter. Join - Women's Team. D GRADE V ROC . Games were suspended during the First World War 1915-17. TheClub's First everPremiership photo -, Standing: Bill Dunstan (Sec), Geoff Watts, Neil Mitchell, Alan Fincher, David Clark, Peter Mikk, Dave Waterton, David Hay, Luke Mathyssen, Mark Jeffs, Ian Baker, Ross Heinrich, Vic Mays (Comm) Ray Colling (Comm) Jack Stewart (Pres), Seated: Dave Barry, Robert Clark, Paul French (Capt/Coach) Paul Hunter (VC) John Strachan, Front Row: Kerry Freeman, Kevin Hasan, Mark Sprigg, Vin Tesorerio, Alan Hasan, Bruce Bailey, Mascots: Donald Kitto Jr, Dean Mays, Peter Brown Jr. Evelyn Speech Night The speech of the [?] 2019 Committee. In 1981 looking to improve on-field, Wandin utilised the Croydon Connection which saw Nick Blackmore, Rob Smith and Rod Lees arrive. Again Wandin struggled on-field often finishing mid ladder. Match case Limit results 1 per page. tower cafe sacramento; galley pirate blox fruits. 17 BLUE V SEVILLE. Make the call! Wandin Junior Football Club are riding a wave of excitement, with high participation seen across all teams setting them up for a great season of fun [] Public Liability Insurance. Located in the beautiful Yarra Valley, Wandin Junior Football Club is a vibrant junior AFL sporting club dedicated to nurturing the sporting and social potential of every child that passes through our club. With the Wandin Fire Brigade's Open Day running alongside, there was plenty for everyone at the Wandin North Oval to do. Selection Panel - John Strachan (Chairman), Peter Brown Snr, Barry Hunter, Rob Bayliss, Kevin Hasan, Ken Tirant. E: info@wandinjfc.com.au GameDay. The WFNC held it s season launch which was a great success. Here are all the dates for our social events. Grand Final - Broadcast Opener 02:17. For the first time this year our A grade girls were nearly at full strength with the only player missing being Ella Bayliss who still has a couple of weeks her ANL requirements before she can play the girls made sure Monbulk new they were ready to play as they came out hard in the wet & cold and by time we led by 15 Wandin 22 to Monbulk 7, Gabby & Jackie were shooting the lights out at a shooting percentage all goalers would be proud of, Monbulk had no answers in the 2nd term as we double our quarter time lead to lead by 30 at half time and at the main break it was Wandin 44 to Monbulk 14 and the game was all but over, the continued to dominate in the goal area as we moved the ball from end to end with ease the longer the game and at the end of the 3rd term our lead grew to 45 goals Wandin 63 to Warburton 18, from there the girls continued to roll over the Monbulk girls to eventually run out very comfortable winners by 55 goals Wandin 80 to Monbulk 25, our best players were Jackie Cullymore, Leah Riley and Gabby Sinclair and our goal scorers were Gabby Sinclair 43 & Jackie Cullymore 37. Log in Sign up. 1989 saw Wandin play in 3 grand finals with the Reserves and Under 17s winning premierships. 50 games, 100 games etc. Content responsibility of website administrator. We provide a safe, family orientated and community spirited club for boys and girls aged from 5 years participating in Auskick and with playing age groups from under 9 to under 16. Ph: 0402 345 130 It had the affect hoped for with the club bowing out in the preliminary final to the powerful Warburton side. The Recreation ground hoped to have a shelter shed completed for the first game of 1921. In other results, the Olinda reserves defeated Wandin 12-11-83 to 2-10-22. Back to Back 1st Division Premierships arrived in 2002 with Daniel King winning the Leagues Senior Best & Fairest and James Maddern winning the Reserves. Team/Club based in Wandin, Seville and Woori Yallock joined together to form Valley United wearing the red white! 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